Fantastika na TV

Fantastika na TV

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Fantastika na TV
« on: August 01, 2016, 12:23:07 PM »
Ne mož' čovek na miru ovih dana ni otići na Fejsbuk ili drugde na net a da ga ne zatrpaju panegirici o najvećem događaju u istoriji civilizacije još od pojave filma GOONIES tamo negde u 1980-im.

Serija od 8 epizoda, SF-horor žanra.



http://cultofghoul.blogspot.rs/2016/07/stranger-things-tv-2016.html

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Lidija

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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2016, 12:40:17 PM »
Pazi da sam ja to 'ladno odgledala…  ::)  a šta da se radi, čovek se ponekad mora i žrtvovati za društvo…

Slažem se sa svim zapažanjima i trudim se (i to vrlo uspešno!) da prebolim to iskustvo sa drugom sezonom jedne od najboljih serija ikada: The Knick! Ima tu daleko više horora nego u tim strendžer tingizima!!  8)

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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2016, 01:30:50 PM »
čovek se ponekad mora i žrtvovati za društvo…

peer pressure po pitanju ove serije je skoro nepodnošljiv!
hajp, oduševljenje, egzaltacija, hvalospevi, nostalgija, joooj đe me nađe evo mi ih 80te ponovo, itsl.
već dobijam grdne negativne komentare fanova što sam im 'popljuvao' (odnosno, kritikovao) serijicu, a pitanje je časa kad će krenuti i pretnje.
ovo bolje da vam se svidi, INAČE...  :o

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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2016, 01:43:03 PM »
Pa, nauči se već jednom da nešto i  :-X ...

Okej, sad ozbiljno - meni je to u principu serija za decu. E sad, zašto to i odrasli vole da gledaju, e to već ne znam.

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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2016, 08:40:18 PM »
serija mi je ultra slatka, kome treba opuštanje i pražnjenje mozga - idealna. deca su jako simpatična, čak mi je i šerif u toj kategoriji, vinona više-manje.
meni na odmoru skroz prijalo.
za razliku od npr. mr. robot koja mi je žestok pretenciozni palamud kako mali perica zamišlja borbu protiv zlog sveta danas.

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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2016, 08:59:47 PM »
Pošteno i ja bih voleo da je pogledam, makar zato što sam jako gotivio Gunise i AD&D kad sam bio klinja. Burazer je pogledao jednu epizodu i kaže mi da je cela jedan džinovski omaž tim (iz sadašnje perspektive dosta srećnijim) vremenima. Još kad je Ghoul rekao da je serija lepo upakovan horor za ljude koji ne vole horor, prosto sam se odmah tu prepoznao ;) Jedino što generalno gledam maksimalno jednu seriju godišnje, pa ne znam dal ću stići ove godine. Računam da će se dogodine iskristalisati kad  se serija srozala pa ću znati tačno dokle da gledam. Držim joj palčeve da skupi celu kasvetnu sezonu, pošto se već za drugu ne nadam previše.

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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2016, 06:27:38 AM »
Pogledah seriju prošlog vikenda, milina... Što reče lilit - ubilo se za pražnjenje mozga. Nakon gledanja, ni meni nije jasno koji stav da zauzmem - sve je simpatično taman toliko da mu nađem opravdanje, a opet suviše slabo da bih  ga kovao u zvezde kao  široki (barem moj) fejsbučki auditorijum...

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Lidija

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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2016, 10:50:32 AM »
Znate, u moje vreme - muahaha – ta “ovako mali perica zamišlja” potprcancija se odnosila isključivo na diletantsku pretencioznost uparenu sa inferiornim poimanjem koncepta pa još i sa traljavom izvedbom pride: trebalo je tu imati čiste 3 od 3, pa da se proverbijalni perica cimne.

Ne znam baš koliko li je to ovde slučaj, jer ako išta, dve pomenute serije koriste apsolutno isti model, pri tom se obraćajući i apsolutno istoj publici. Naravno, to istoj samo po pitanju uzrasta, jer (jedina) suštinska razlika je baš u ikonografiji.

Obe serije su veoma, veoma solidne u egzekuciji i još bolje u baratanju odabranim repertoarom: obe imaju bazično karikaturalne protagoniste, jer im ciljna grupa lakše emotivno reaguje na nestandardne individue; obe imaju mentalno eratične nosioce radnje; obe obiluju non sequitur karakternim "transformacijama"; obe nude narativ sa vrlo malo (ako iole) unutrašnje logike; obe impliciraju underground konfrontaciju sa stvarnošću i obe proizvode emotivni efekt kroz manipulaciju.

E sad, Stranger Things ima prednost jer barata širim asortimanom koji uključuje i natprirodno, a tu je onda ama baš sve moguće, dok Mr. Robot barata žanrovskim elementima koji su realistički limitovani ili granicama samog trilera ili puke konspiratorne mahinacije... otud je i normalno da će ga većina van ciljne grupe "provaliti" unutar 2-4 epizode maksimum. Ali naravno, to je svakom-svoje situacija, tako da to uopšte nije pitanje bilo kakvog hendikepa, nego isključivo preferenci.

Ali obe serije su veoma vešte u egzekuciji generičkog obrasca, i tu bukvalno nema mesta za sirotog pericu... doduše, nisu ni izbliza lukave kao True Detective obrazac, ali opet, to samo zato što se primarno obraćaju ranijoj a ne poznijoj adolescenciji. Plus je Stranger Things pametnija da ne cevči svoj bunar odviše, jer osam epizoda je stvarno dokazan bogomdan format koji dokazano može da opstane neraskrinkan unutar šire populacije.

i tako... smatram da ipak nije u pitanju onaj naš proverbijalni perica, nego prosto generički ADHD tv format koji ima istinski blistavu budućnost sa generalnom žanrovskom publikom.  :)



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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2016, 03:06:43 PM »
Gledam sad Mr Robot, i opasno me nervira (kolko nešto što možete uvek da obrišete može da vas nervira), ali me i drži.

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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2016, 04:13:00 PM »
Ja se ozbiljno nosim mišlju da odustanem posle treće epizode. (ODAKLE MU MIŠIĆI?!?!?!?! I zašto plavuša i njen dečko onako glupavi rade u cybersecurity firmi a ne znaju a) šta je rootkit, b) koliko je tačno zeznuta krađa indentiteta? I zašto su ubacili svaki ali svaki stereotip o hakerima i kompjuterašima uopšte...)
Plus, besplatan protip: ne gledati sa sysadminom.

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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2016, 04:24:57 PM »
Ja se ozbiljno nosim mišlju da odustanem posle treće epizode. (ODAKLE MU MIŠIĆI?!?!?!?! I zašto plavuša i njen dečko onako glupavi rade u cybersecurity firmi a ne znaju a) šta je rootkit, b) koliko je tačno zeznuta krađa indentiteta? I zašto su ubacili svaki ali svaki stereotip o hakerima i kompjuterašima uopšte...)
Plus, besplatan protip: ne gledati sa sysadminom.

ma pakao

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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2016, 08:32:06 AM »
The Wild Cards Are Coming... to Television


We have some exciting new for all the Wild Cards fans out there.

Universal Cable Productions (UCP) has acquired the rights to adapt our long-running Wild Cards series of anthologies and mosaic novels for television. Development will begin immediately on what we hope will be the first of several interlocking series. Melinda M. Snodgrass, my assistant editor and right-hand man on Wild Cards since its inception, the creator of Dr. Tachyon, Double Helix, and Franny Black, and a seasoned television writer/ producer whose credits include STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION ("Measure of a Man"), REASONABLE DOUBTS, THE PROFILER, and STAR COMMAND, is attached as an executive producer on the project, together with Gregory Noveck of RED, Slow Learner, and SyFy Films

UCP creates innovative and critically acclaimed television and digital content across various media platforms for domestic and international distribution. Their programming can be seen across numerous networks and channels across the world, and includes the Golden Globe and Peabody award-winning drama MR. ROBOT, the exciting new SF series COLONY, PLAYING HOUSE, ROYAL PAINS, and SUITS on the USA Network; Lev Grossman's brilliant THE MAGICIANS, 12 MONKEYS, and KILLJOYS on SyFY; GIRLFRIENDS' GUIDE TO DIVORCE on Bravo; THE ROYALS on E!; and DIFFICULT PEOPLE on Hulu. UCP's content library includes such fan favorites such as the Emmy-award winning MONK, PYSCH, and BATTLESTAR GALACTICA. Universal Cable Productions is a part of NBCUniversal Cable Entertainment, a division of NBCUniversal, one of the world's leading media and entertainment companies. (Follow them at @UCPisTV).

The shared world of the Wild Cards diverged from our own on September 15, 1946 when an alien virus was released in the skies over Manhattan, and spread across an unsuspecting Earth. Of those infected, 90% died horribly, drawing the black queen, 9% were twisted and deformed into jokers, while a lucky 1% became blessed with extraordinary and unpredictable powers and became aces. The world was never the same.

The first volume of the Wild Cards series was published in 1986, and was a finalist for that year's Hugo Award, ultimately losing to Alan Moore's WATCHMEN. Twenty-two volumes have been published to date, with a twenty-third (HIGH STAKES) scheduled for hardcover release later this month, and three more in the works. Translations and reprints of many of the Wild Cards books and stories have been published around the globe, in France, Germany, Brazil, Spain, Mexico, Russia, Japan, Italy, and the United Kingdom. Comic books, graphic novels, and role-playing games have also chronicled the adventures of the aces and jokers of the WC universe.

Generations of writers, from bold new voices to visionary grand masters, have contributed to the Wild Cards universe over the past three decades. Our roster of writers and creators includes Howard Waldrop, Walter Jon Williams, Stephen Leigh, Victor Milan, John Jos. Miller, Gail Gerstner Miller, Edward Bryant, Leanne C. Harper, Arthur Byron Cover, Chris Claremont, Lewis Shiner, Walton (Bud) Simons, Steve Perrin, Royce Wideman, Pat Cadigan, Sage Walker, Laura J. Mixon, Parris, William F. Wu, Michael Cassutt, Kevin Andrew Murphy, Daniel Abraham, Ty Franck, Bob Wayne, S.L. Farrell, Carrie Vaughn, Caroline Spector, Christopher Rowe, Ian Tregillis, David D. Levine, David Anthony Durham, Cherie Priest, Paul Cornell, Craig Chrissinger, Mary Anne Mohanraj, Max Gladstone, Marko Kloos, Diana Rowland, Bradley Denton, Saladin Ahmed, the late great Roger Zelazny, and of course Melinda Snodgrass and yours truly.

Wild Cards is a series of books, graphic novels, games... but most of all it is a universe, as large and diverse and exciting as the comic book universes of Marvel and DC (though somewhat grittier, and considerably more realistic and more consistent), with an enormous cast of characters both major and minor. There are thousands of stories to be told in the world of the Wild Cards, and Gregory and Melinda and UPC hope to be able to tell many of them.

Which stories will be adapted? Which characters will be featured? Hard to say at this early stage. Let's see... we have Jetboy, the Four Aces, Dr. Tachyon, the Great and Powerful Turtle, Modular Man, Yeoman, Wraith, Cap'n Trips, Fortunato, Puppetman, Chrysalis, Popinjay, the Oddity, Father Squid, Water Lily, Sewer Jack, Bagabond, Peregrine, Carnifex, Infamous Black Tongue, Bugsy, Curveball, Earth Witch, Cameo, Elephant Girl, Demise, Ramshead, Mackie Messer, Mr. Nobody, Double Helix, the Amazing Bubbles, Stuntman, Rustbelt, Lohengrin, Hoodoo Mama, Drummer Boy, Abigail the Understudy, the Midnight Angel, and many many MANY more. Which ones will you see? I don't know. Which ones do you want to see? Tell us below, in the comments. I am sure that Melinda and Gregory and UPC will be listening.

Only one thing I can say for (almost) sure. You will be seeing Croyd Crenson, no matter shape the eventual show or shows ends up taking. It wouldn't be Wild Cards without the Sleeper.

So there it is. I hope you're as excited as I am. Of course, Hollywood is Hollywood, and nothing is ever certain in development... but I think I hope I cross my fingers that the Wild Cards will be coming to your home screens in the next year or two.

I won't be working on the series myself... my own development deal is exclusive to HBO, and I am writing THE WINDS OF WINTER, as I believe most of you will recall... but I have every confidence in Melinda Snodgrass and Gregory Noveck. They know and love the Wild Cards universe almost as well as I do, and I think they will do a terrific job. Wish them luck.

((And be sure to come to the Wild Cards Cage Matchs at worldcon, and snap up HIGH STAKES when it hits the stands later this month)).

Clear skies and tailwinds, as Jetboy would say.

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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2016, 10:25:27 AM »
Grant Morrison and Bryan Taylor Are Adapting Brave New World for Syfy

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Well, this is certainly going to be a ton of work. Syfy’s announced that Bryan Taylor (Crank) and Grant Morrison (of being Grant Morrison) are adapting Aldous Huxley’s classic Brave New World for Syfy.

We heard that Syfy and Amblin were working on this last year, but now we know who’s going to be writing and executive producing the show. And Morrison and Taylor are certainly people with vision. Syfy doesn’t say whether this is going to be a ongoing series or a miniseries, but, even with these two on board, this is going to be an uphill go of it.

Brave New World is a near-perfect example of the “false utopia” trope that science fiction has been in love with for decades. It also takes place in 2540, which is far enough in the future that Syfy is going to have to work hard to make it look “futuristic,” while also updating the things in Huxley’s novel that were scary future-tech when he wrote it but aren’t as far off (or as scary) now. Best of luck, Syfy. We’re so glad to see the channel be ambitious like this. Put this next to The Expanse and it’ll be a great night of television.

Syfy also announced it was making Happy!, based on the graphic novel by Morrison and artist Darick Robertson. Morrison and Taylor are also going to executive produce this, with the two writing the pilot and Taylor directing it.

You know, just your usual show about a grim hit man who ends up with a chipper imaginary blue winged horse. Syfy is really swinging for the fences.
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Re: Fantastika na TV
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2016, 12:45:20 PM »
Phu, Morison? Onda nečemu i da se nadamo. Mislim, ovo mora da bude otrovno.

pa najzad da bude nešto novo na SciFi
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2016, 06:15:44 PM »
Dobro je, kad je poslednji put bilo išta novo na SciFi kanalu, kad je bilo išta osim princeze Ksene, Andromede, i Sharknado-a.

Poslednje novo bila je Alisa. (Fantazi.) Ona Alisa sa brilijantnom Katerinom Skorsone (Caterina Scorsone).